The Book of Life and the Book of Remembrance, are they 1 in the same?

sorry but as I said before it belongs to me but what I am about to say may change everything it may also be foolish on my part . I Ray am god

In John 3:3 lies the answer Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
In 3;3 we see the kingdom of God we do not actually enter but our eyes are open to the reality of God an jesus, in 3;6 as we invite the Holy Spirit into our lives and start changing we ENTER his Kingdom. asthe fulfilment of Know Jesus and The Father and Holy Spirit

The Book of Life belongs to the Lamb (Jesus Christ). Our job is to obey him by lisening and doing the words he teaches in the Bible. Through obedience and the desire to be a follower of Christ we get our names written in the Book of Life. See the above study on Book of Life.

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anybody know where I can find the book of life , need it to find some answer and belongs to me if any one would be so kind point me in right way

Great comment. The only way to learn of Jesus's word is to have this kind of attitude. Now we just need to act on it. Be humble, change, pray, and study. Christ said "...Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 18:3

I believe Jesus died for my sins
and I believe the word is the only truth
but some time the wording confuses me
I know that I need to understand.

The "Book of Life" referred to in both the Hebrew Scriptures and the New Testament is a METAPHOR which symbolically refers to those who have aligned their lives with the values of God's Kingdom and who therefore will share in everlasting life. There is no LITERAL book of life stored on some "heavenly book shelf." The only book of life that literally exists which Jewish and Christian persons should be concerned about is the Judeo-Christian scriptures. Further, the question that we should be concerned about is, "do we 'find' ourselves in this book or not?" In other words, do we "find" ourselves identified with one of the many scriptural characters who God reaches out to with saving grace throughout salvation history or not?

Or even if the verses mentioning the Book of Life are interpreted as the "Book" and "Lamb's Book" being the same...in that case, it's also clear that people who do in fact receive salvation are never blotted out, only those who never received it.

You could counter argue in this case that everyone had it to begin with, but this is clearly not the case, as that would mean the whole human race was saved and justified...and if ALL who are justified are also glorified, it cannot be this way, since we know that the whole human race is definitely not saved.

Either way, in no cases where the Book of Life or Lamb's Book of Life are mentioned does it imply a loss of salvation. And Thank God for this that it is 100% His work and not ours.

The Book of Life is God's record of ALL people who have ever lived. To be blotted out of the Book of Life, means to be dead, physically. It does not imply a loss of salvation. The Lamb's Book of Life is God's record of ALL who have received Eternal Life. They are different.

Consider this passage:

Romans 8:29-30

For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

The key is the final part of verse 30. (Note that your view on predestination DOES NOT matter here) It clearly states that ALL whom He justified (saved, pardoned, gave forgiveness of sins) WILL also be glorified (happens in heaven when you die, you're conformed to a perfect glorified body with Christ).

Therefore, if you could in fact lose salvation (be justified), this verse could NOT state that ALL that are justified are glorified.

The key is: Are you truly saved? Many who claim to be are not. To the human mind, it appears that many people do indeed lose their salvation, but as you can see, biblically this is not the case. Therefore, what appears to us as a loss of salvation, in fact is the fact that they never had it in the first place, or else they would have been justified. But as the above verse says, if you are justified, you will also be glorified, in EVERY case.

Because as any Bible-believer knows, BOTH verses MUST be true if they are from God, because he cannot lie (Titus 1:1-3). Therefore, God cannot say you cannot lose your salvation, then say you can lose it, because one of them must be untruthful, which cannot be the case, unless the Bible is wrong, which means it can't possibly be from God.

Hope this helps...any verse interpreted as a loss of salvation is being interpreted incorrectly. In many cases they are talking about heavenly rewards or are warnings for people that have "head-knowledge" but have never placed their faith in Christ. If a loss of salvation is the correct interpretation, we might as well throw out the whole Bible, since it violates about 50 clear scriptures (for sake of length and time I gave only one example) that you cannot lose it, and we know, ALL of them MUST be truthful.

"YES" That is correct and only God and the Jesus Christ.

I am not sure I understand what you are saying.

If someone were to be removed out of the Book of Life it would be through the direction of Jehovah God and His Son Jesus Christ.

I know that the subject has changed many times. The question is according to the passages of scriptures is "CAN A BELIVER BE REMOVED FROM THE BOOK OF LIFE" (1) in Exodus 32:33 God says he has the right to remove a name from the Book of Life. (2)In Revelation 3:5 Jesus says he has the right to remove a name from the Book of Life. Notice that out of all the authors of different books of the Bible not one of them has access to the Book of Life. So it is not up to the authors or ourselves to say that a name that in the book can not be removed. Sinners' names are not in the book to be removed, it is talking about saints.

I agree that it does not appear scriptural to say every aborted kid is destined to "hell" or judged to die as one with the wicked.

Instead of saying "it is c*&p" why not prove it out with what the Word of God says?

Here are a few Biblical scriptures showing children who have not reached the age of understanding have a chance at being in the Kingdom of God.

Mark 10:13-16
And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them: and his disciples rebuked those that brought them. But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them.

Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

1 Corinthians 7:14
For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

Many religious organizations will baptize infants. However, Matthew 28:19 says to teach and then baptize. This means a person must reach an age of understanding before they can take on the responsibilty of learning.

Is it not placing judgment on a soul (individual) to say they will not enter the Kingdom of God, even to say that about infants? We should let the judgment belong to Christ and His Father. And what we have learned about them is that their judgment is righteous and it only makes sense that all individuals get a chance to decide if they want to worship Christ and His Father or not.

I WILL BE ENTERING HEAVEN WHEN I DIE AND
THAT THIS IS A PROMISE ACCORDING TO JESUS
MY FATHER AND I AM A BELIEVER

The suggestion that every innocent little baby is already a sinner on day one has got to be the worst crap I have ever heard. Buty then the guillible and weak will believe anything

To the person who says that all babies are saved until the time they can comprehend what Jesus did for us is plain wrong. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God even babies. Now when we look at sin it can be actual or imputed. Actual sin is when we defy or disobey God. Imputed sin is that sinful nature which all men have inherited from our fallen forefather Adam. All have inherited the sin nature and are destine for hell even little cute babies, sad to say. The babies that die at birth where people who were would have rejected Jesus whether or not they were permitted to grow old or not. God is just no matter how we humans want to see it.

These children were not written into the Lambs Book of Life and hence their early death is permitted.

The question was asked, what does Chris Tomlin mean in his song "I Will Rise?" I don't know what he means any more than I know what hundreds of other songwriters have written about in their music. It could be that he is singing about his own personal perception of what he thinks will happen when he is raised back to life. When Chris Tomlin thinks this will happen, I don't know. The most important thing to question here is what God's word, the Holy Bible, has to say about death & resurrection, rather than wondering what is meant by the song lyrics of one man.

The scriptures have many references that speak about the time coming up when the resurrection will happen, for both those who will be accounted righteous to get to live forever, as well as those who don't. We can determine from the scriptures that Christ is the only one so far to have been raised to eternal life from the dead. Colossians 1:18,19 refers to Jesus as the firstborn from the dead and Acts 2:29 states that even David is still dead and buried.

If you haven't had a chance to read it yet, it might be helpful to refer to the Special Interest/News section of our website and read the information on "The Truth about Death & Hell." There are many more scriptures on this subject. Will those who are raised back to life hear a literal voice when that time comes? Revelation 11:11-12 speaks about the time upcoming when some of God's people will hear a voice when they are raised back to life. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 also talks about Christ coming with a shout and with the voice of the archangel at the point when some others are resurrected. Just exactly how it will be accomplished remains to be seen--or more accurately--heard.

It is interesting to speculate how it might be, but the most important thing seems to be that we try our hardest to do what we should now in order to be a part of those who have their names written in the Book of Life and will be raised back to eternal life when the time comes. Then we will have that firsthand chance to experience how it will take place! I hope this helps.